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PostSubject: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:06 am

Heya Overdrivers! ... pirat

Some constructive critic and suggestions for improvements will follow.
I recommend taking everything as suggestions which are meant to improve the guild in a serious way.

Some of this isn't really necessary until our guild expands to 30 active members and above.



Forum Design

I like it a lot as it is but there are a few things which are bugging me.
I know that we're still standing at the beginning of everything, so don't think I would want to kill you because of the design.
Chatbox: If we are having a chatbox, I would recommend using the old one at the bottom of the forum. It is easier to read, easier to use and doesn't stand in the way if someone wants to use this site for what it was meant to be used. As a forum and easy-to-use communication base. (Furthermore, it just looks better without this small ugly box above everything else.)
Music Player: I won't tell anyone to take this one out, but doing so would surely give this forum a cleaner style. Alternative: a Music-Section in the forums where everyone could insert his own playlist if he likes. That way nobody will have to stop the player on the main site when he's listening to his own music. Plus: It looks more professional without something like that black box in the way when you scroll down.



Post-Ranking-System & Donuts

Every forum has it und it's good as it is.
I would just recommend - when this guild becomes more famous and more people are joining - deleting the Dice-Threads after they're done. This Ranking-System is also meant to show new members who are the dedicated players. Of course we could still increase the post count by making funny/senseless/idiotic/... comments but this whole dice-thing takes it to another excessive level.

Considering these donuts: This is a nice additional system to increase ones usefulness and fame. But remember this - if there will be many members, there will also be "the haters". An infamous group of people who likes to flame. They will also click that minus ( - ) often, if possible even with their hater-friends. So that suddenly some reputable guild mates find themselves having 20 donuts less than last evening.
Nonetheless I think this system is neat and you could still warn/ban the people who are misusing this.
Also: if we're planning on using the donut-system seriously that way how it's meant to be, we shouldn't give out like 20 donuts when someone wins a dice game *cough* Suspect Unless these donuts should fulfill another purpose - like ... fun or so Rolling Eyes



That's it for now.
I wanted to tell you this before I forget it someday.
Again, take everything as constructive critic and my personal thoughts on improving this guild to something serious.
Of course we can still have fun! I don't want to sound like someone who tries to make everything deadserious and exterminate the fun-factor. Cool
I'm trying to stabilize all this so that it won't break out into chaos some day.
I was also a few times guild leader in different games and believe me - this could get out of hand some day really fast.
Most of these points I mentioned so far aren't that important as we are now.
But when we expand - I think we should consider these.
Just take this also as a reminder.


EDIT: One thing - regarding the choice of leaders tomorrow.
You said you want to choose 4 leaders? There seem to be only 4 applications though...
We don't need so many, I think. Two more should suffice for now.



- Val


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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:31 am

I think thats a good Idea!
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:55 am

I agree with you on the music playlist. It's a pain having to pause it every time.
Of course, you are able to make your own. I'm just too lazy Razz

I think the Donuts are just meant to be fun for now. I find it humorous that Doughnut has -7 donuts. Plus, even when our guild gets bigger and the forums get more active, we shouldn't have too many haters (being a guild, and all). Walter can just drive 'em out.

Nice suggestions. I'm sure they'll be taken into account, being the God that you are. -bows-
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:27 pm

I agree with the chatbox, I dislike how you have to sign up, and the very tiny chat as well. The other was more cleaner.

As for the music playlist there is a way to block it, but it requires an extra plug-in download for firefox users.

The posts, hmm I guess I know what you mean. If you trashed those threads we are back to the amount of posts we should've had to begin with. I think I was around 60. I seriously can't believe we spent like three hours on this... the post count is the only thing to show for it Shocked

I think he meant he'll pick 4 applications, and then put them into a poll. After that, only 2 will actually become the co-leaders. If he only did two to begin with, well there wouldn't really be any vote now.

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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 1:16 pm

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I agree with the chatbox, I dislike how you have to sign up, and the very tiny chat as well. The other was more cleaner.

As for the music playlist there is a way to block it, but it requires an extra plug-in download for firefox users.

The posts, hmm I guess I know what you mean. If you trashed those threads we are back to the amount of posts we should've had to begin with. I think I was around 60. I seriously can't believe we spent like three hours on this... the post count is the only thing to show for it Shocked

I think he meant he'll pick 4 applications, and then put them into a poll. After that, only 2 will actually become the co-leaders. If he only did two to begin with, well there wouldn't really be any vote now.

Nice suggestions overall.

I downloaded that firefox plug-in and it doesn't block it.
Are there any special settings I need to configure?
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:28 pm

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Heya Overdrivers! ... pirat

Some constructive critic and suggestions for improvements will follow.
I recommend taking everything as suggestions which are meant to improve the guild in a serious way.

Some of this isn't really necessary until our guild expands to 30 active members and above.



Forum Design

I like it a lot as it is but there are a few things which are bugging me.
I know that we're still standing at the beginning of everything, so don't think I would want to kill you because of the design.
Chatbox: If we are having a chatbox, I would recommend using the old one at the bottom of the forum. It is easier to read, easier to use and doesn't stand in the way if someone wants to use this site for what it was meant to be used. As a forum and easy-to-use communication base. (Furthermore, it just looks better without this small ugly box above everything else.)
Music Player: I won't tell anyone to take this one out, but doing so would surely give this forum a cleaner style. Alternative: a Music-Section in the forums where everyone could insert his own playlist if he likes. That way nobody will have to stop the player on the main site when he's listening to his own music. Plus: It looks more professional without something like that black box in the way when you scroll down.



Post-Ranking-System & Donuts

Every forum has it und it's good as it is.
I would just recommend - when this guild becomes more famous and more people are joining - deleting the Dice-Threads after they're done. This Ranking-System is also meant to show new members who are the dedicated players. Of course we could still increase the post count by making funny/senseless/idiotic/... comments but this whole dice-thing takes it to another excessive level.

Considering these donuts: This is a nice additional system to increase ones usefulness and fame. But remember this - if there will be many members, there will also be "the haters". An infamous group of people who likes to flame. They will also click that minus ( - ) often, if possible even with their hater-friends. So that suddenly some reputable guild mates find themselves having 20 donuts less than last evening.
Nonetheless I think this system is neat and you could still warn/ban the people who are misusing this.
Also: if we're planning on using the donut-system seriously that way how it's meant to be, we shouldn't give out like 20 donuts when someone wins a dice game *cough* Suspect Unless these donuts should fulfill another purpose - like ... fun or so Rolling Eyes



That's it for now.
I wanted to tell you this before I forget it someday.
Again, take everything as constructive critic and my personal thoughts on improving this guild to something serious.
Of course we can still have fun! I don't want to sound like someone who tries to make everything deadserious and exterminate the fun-factor. Cool
I'm trying to stabilize all this so that it won't break out into chaos some day.
I was also a few times guild leader in different games and believe me - this could get out of hand some day really fast.
Most of these points I mentioned so far aren't that important as we are now.
But when we expand - I think we should consider these.
Just take this also as a reminder.


EDIT: One thing - regarding the choice of leaders tomorrow.
You said you want to choose 4 leaders? There seem to be only 4 applications though...
We don't need so many, I think. Two more should suffice for now.



- Val

Well I need to eat because I just woke up and I am STARVING, so I will try to get my point across.

You know, you are right about most things. The chatbox I was experimenting with, I was going to take it down tonight. The playlist......well.....I am trying to find away where it does not play the second you go to the page. Or maybe I can move it, I will try my best.

Onto the post count dilemma...

I think we did go to far with the dice. I mean, I did not want to delete it because the only thing that shows us we didn't waste three hours of our life in the post count. But I guess deleting it would be all for the better.

The donuts will stay. There will always be foolish people wherever you are, and I don't want them to ruin our function. Yes, we should use the donuts wisely now, no more prizes for donuts or "just for fun" I implemented them to show the significance of a post, so if I see any unwise donut'd posts ( I can see so watch out ) then I will warn you.

I am going to be taking more authority now. Yesterday I came home from a concert so I was like naturally high, which is why the forums were a lil' crazy. It is good to see a former guild leader here like Val to wake me up. =D

I also think that there is a panel where it shows who took donuts away from another, so I will know.

The leader thing....I meant four will be chosen for the SEMI FINAL round, and two will be chosen in total. Or maybe we just need one for now...I will make a poll later. Because I am STARVING.

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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:34 pm

"wow" nobody + this post? "wow" I just realized my posts went back down. Oh well, I just got to do things the hard way then.


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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:36 pm

I guess because this "donut system" isn't existent in all forums.
So people easily forget that there actually is such an option Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:49 pm

Well i tried to + it but nothing happened...
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:59 pm

Wait whats going on? No one "+" which post?

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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:06 pm

it might be that I can't vote anymore for today, (wich wat it says ow) which is odd seeing as I haven't vote today


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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:07 pm

Weird, let me check the panel.

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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:13 pm

I think you get more donuts to pelt someone, 24 hours after using it.
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:15 pm

Yeah everything is fine, I think it might be 24 hours. I mean, yesterday was like a donut overload.

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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:16 pm

It seems like I can thank people in the off-topic section, but not here.

Nevermind. Looks like you can only thank people who reply to your own topics.
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:06 pm

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Aerosophical wrote:
I agree with the chatbox, I dislike how you have to sign up, and the very tiny chat as well. The other was more cleaner.

As for the music playlist there is a way to block it, but it requires an extra plug-in download for firefox users.

The posts, hmm I guess I know what you mean. If you trashed those threads we are back to the amount of posts we should've had to begin with. I think I was around 60. I seriously can't believe we spent like three hours on this... the post count is the only thing to show for it Shocked

I think he meant he'll pick 4 applications, and then put them into a poll. After that, only 2 will actually become the co-leaders. If he only did two to begin with, well there wouldn't really be any vote now.

Nice suggestions overall.

I downloaded that firefox plug-in and it doesn't block it.
Are there any special settings I need to configure?

Did you press block in the corner of the music playlist? It should look like a tab that is a bit transparent. It should also be cutting a little into the scrolling news bar. Make sure that you're using the Ad-block plus. I don't know if there are any others but you never know. Other than that, I don't think I used any particular settings but the default ones.
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:07 pm

The playlist thing is already fixed.

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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:12 pm

I wasn't using Ad-block plus. I was using ad-block. thx tho.

Nice. It doesn't auto-start now.
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:14 pm

I generally don't have my speakers on so I didn't realize it. Thanks Falco.
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:19 am

Does this Ad-Block Plus Plug-In remove the playlist completely or does it leave an empty space?
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:55 pm

It looks like this



then becomes this with ad-block.



So basically, it removes the playlist completely. It does leave a small empty space as shown by the arrow. Because that part was originally part of the forums I believe.

Should be better I think.


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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:05 pm

Wow thanks for showing this detailed with screenies!
Gave you a donut.

Thank you!
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:09 pm

Thanks for the donut Val! Plus no problem, hope this helped you out. Very Happy

I'm not really sure if the pictures are too big though =X
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:14 pm

Well, the pictures stretch the page quite a bit...
Lucky, my resolution is 1680x1050, so everything fits in here^^

Maybe you could resize them and make them smaller by 50% or so?
Should be still enough to recognize everything.

If I were a mod, I would resize and reupload them personally.
Aaand move this to a new thread. *hint hint*
We are going quite OT here Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Construction of the Guild   Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:21 pm

Alright I get your point, it should be better now I think. Should I just leave my text and put everything in General?
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